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@michal@sapka.pl
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You heard it here first:
@grumpygamer This means a lot to me. The original game was the first thing I ever backed on Kickstarter. And then I got to talk to/interview you for the release on GOG (which had me nervous for two weeks leading up to it). So needless to say the first game has a very special place in my heart. <3
@grumpygamer I hope this will run on Mac. Or I will cry
@gullevek The game is being made on the Mac. No worries.
@grumpygamer nice to hear! Steam says Windows, in this thread you mentioned Mac. Will it also support #Linux again?
@holarse Yes, we haven't set up the builds yet, so it defaults to Win, but we will have Mac and Linux.
@grumpygamer @holarse Will definitely buy this on Linux first, but will we get a Switch or PS5 Version in the future?
@grumpygamer You know where your audience is when everyone here is excited for a sequel to a point and click adventure game. 
@grumpygamer just picked up a couple of games on gog. got a notification from steam that the first one is on sale for $5. hopefully gog gets in on the sale action too so I can grab a copy.
@grumpygamer Did not have that on my radar at all. 2028 does give me time to replay the first one (and rebuy it).
@grumpygamer Actually, they heard it here first!
https://youtube.com/shorts/I-r2Uy3VZzc?si=5tviRffm9BooqcMR exactly three years ago!
@grumpygamer Awesome! I hope you guys plan to share updates like you did during the development of the first game. I really enjoyed the blog posts and podcasts you guys produced.
@grumpygamer Excellent to hear the news on TWP2! The world needs more adventure games.
I know it’s a looong shot, but i sent you a quick form email in my attempt to apply and make myself known! Please give it a glance!
The mind boggles on how you plan to continue the story after the ending we got!
Looking forward to how you do that!
@grumpygamer @marzlberger Sh*t up and take my money - just as you did years ago with v1. Great news! 🎉🖤
@grumpygamer Will you be doing a something like last time with a podcast log of the process ? Are you going kickstarter again ?
@grumpygamer Awesome! Also having the same team (love what Mark Ferrari did with the 8bitish look 😍) on board is great 👍 Absolutely looking forward to it 🥳
@grumpygamer Definitely *beeping* YES! Haven’t found that *beeping* Kickstarter page yet, but I swear I’ll keep *beeping* searching to make sure my *beeping* number stays in that phone book, *beep*!🤡
@grumpygamer yessss. Steam only in the beginning or will it be released on iOS?
@stealthmusic Read the blog.
@grumpygamer I did… I even searched the comments before, to see if you mentioned it. You wrote that TP1 is on sale for iOS and TP2 will be available for Mac. Did I overlook anything? 🫣
@grumpygamer The fast there will be a GoG version is indeed meaning there are only good news. Thanks so much for this.
And I write that as multiple "Rework" owner.
RE: https://fosstodon.org/@libreoffice/117003014083228258
Looking up from my laptop, wha…?
ClaudioM boostedLibreOffice, yours for a lifetime
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https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/07/29/libreoffice-yours-for-a-lifetime/
#LibreOffice
🔋 MIT just published the most comprehensive EV emissions study yet, analyzing every US zip code with real driving data.
Battery EVs cut lifetime emissions 40-60% vs gas cars in most locations. Even on the dirtiest grid in the country, they still come out ahead. The study used DOE's GREET lifecycle model, which already includes battery manufacturing. So the "but what about making the batteries?" question is answered: building an EV produces 50-80% more CO2 upfront, but it pays that back over the vehicle's life.
Your driving habits matter as much as where you live. High mileage, city driving, and larger vehicles all boost the EV advantage. Cold weather cuts efficiency on a frigid night but barely dents annual savings.
The "who benefits from the doubt?" question has a paper trail. The API has run anti-EV messaging since 1967. Koch-funded groups planned $10M/year campaigns. AFPM dropped $10M+ on "Don't Ban Our Cars" ads in 2024 swing states.
https://news.mit.edu/2026/us-drivers-electric-vehicles-offer-emissions-benefits-cost-savings-0512
@jcrabapple
A really interesting study! Love it that they looked at the "who benefits from the doubt?" question & followed the paper trail to provide answers that will surprise no one here… 🤔🙏🏻
@jcrabapple Thanks for the update! Here at my faculty we have this conversation like A LOT. Would make sure to save this ref# for a future about the batteries. Would say still it's better if more people ride bicycles (zero emission vs something), but seems like EV is still making a dent!
@jcrabapple electric buses and electrified railways should come first but private EVs are better in every way than private ice vs. I call mine my Biden mobile. They were basically the cheapest new cars available for a few years during the Biden ev credit years. I believe it cost about half what the average new car costs.
@jcrabapple
I'm still anti ev but that's because I'm anti vehicle unless you really need it, don't buy an ev if you have a working petrol car you only occasionally use.
@jcrabapple I wonder if US cities will start charging extra for old cars like London has. Do you know of any US cities that have proposed such changes? I have only seen items on London and UK suburbs.
My car is at 170k after 20 years ;p
@michal I don’t understand why it would be a yearly amount. The battery is only produced once. Are they working backwards from a presumed max car lifetime or something like that?
@michal I get that. What I’m asking is, the battery is produced only once, so why would the payoff distance be a _yearly_ number?
The only way I can make it make sense, is if they’re assuming a car will be off the road after X years, so they’re dividing the payoff distance by X and calling it a yearly amount.
It seems weird to me because car lifetimes are commonly measured in distance driven rather than years.
Is that clearer?
@michal I think that’s wrong. It not „per year“ but an absolute number. After about 30k to 60k kilometers the ev is better. Don’t know who brought in the „per year“ claim … but i have an idea …
Nothing replaces the test of the garage .
Put an ev in a closed garage , stay inside and start it .
Wait 10 mins
Put an ice car in a closed garage , stay inside and start it .
Wait 10 mins . Huh forget the next test.
@jcrabapple best thing I have read in a month.
Between solar power (big wind and distributed panels) and electric cars, stopping a run away green house effect is entirely going to happen. No more climate despair. Your grand children will not have to play in air conditioned domes and call that "going outside".
And it happened because really smart people continued and continue to care about efficiency - which changes the economics in favor of solutions smart people care about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1_uGtECIkY
The one about pneumatic tubes made me feel things. Pneumatic tubes always do that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W27gBuCHlZI
also: radio shack
@michal I made about $500 in today's dollars a month delivering 60 news papers after school when I was 12-14. At Christmas time I could easily pull in over $1200 because of holiday gifts.
Jak patrzyłem parę miesięcy temu to myślałem że RPi już bardziej nie zdrożeją. Myliłem się xD (model 4GB niedostępny)
@stfn 🤔 raspi w cenie lapka poleasingowego ...
@stfn W tej cenie RPi przestaje być jakąkolwiek alternatywą dla czegokolwiek. Można rozważać jeszcze Pi Zero 2, ale 829 PLN za samą płytkę to dużo. W grudniu 2023 roku kupowałem Pi 5 8 GB ale z wieloma akcesoriami za jakieś 780 PLN i już wówczas uważałem, że cena jest powyżej granicy rozsądku.
@stfn poleasingowy usff pc:
@thebluemarble @chfour @jeder ja mam na ten moment cztery, dwa używane, a dwa czekają na jakiś pomysł na nie xD
@bartek @thebluemarble @chfour też mam Wyse 5070 jako kontroler drukarki 3D
@michal heh. That's interesting. Im still only halfway through the checkbook I got when I opened my last checking account... <checks.. cheques.. heh> 17 yrs ago. oh wow.
Now Im curious. Most online banking portals have that feature where it can show a "void" or sample cheque with the instituion, routing, branch and account #s in that computer OCR font. In theory, that's all you need to be a valid cheque...?
And the cheque _numbers_ are arbitrary (as far as the bank is concerned) cause you can have them restart or jump anytime.
Wonder if you can just print your own?
All you need is the MICR (Magnetic Ink Character Recognition) font, either the E-13B (North America) or CMC-7 (Europe) variant.. and some magnetic ink.
While IM no lawyer and MAYBE its some kind of fraud, I'd be willing to TRY printing my own to see if it worked.
The history of feudal Japan is complex. Let me try and samuraise it for you
W sobotę mieli do nas przyjechać na kilka dni znajomi . Nadludzkim wysiłkiem przygotowaliśmy się na to, organizacyjnie i psychiczne. Nawet nie zadzwonili, że odwołali.
@Szescstopni RSVP następnym razem 😎
@adam_wysokinski Nie zrozumieja. Nikt już nie zna francuskiego.
I have elected not to read any HN or Reddit comments on my latest post, but I am accepting nominations for the wall of shame:
https://ludic.mataroa.blog/compliments/
Ideal candidates are mean-spirited ad hominem. 🫡
@ludicity ah - welcome to the league of public speakers. this happens to everyone as soon as their audience gets big enough. the moment you call out the embarassing truths (we have both shouted about them before) all the folks who are insecure with those facts are the ones to complain first. like every sweaty weirdo nerd defending apple on social media from anyone who dare speak ill of them. same flavor of demographic
@Viss By virtue of my weird position where the first thing I ever wrote went viral, I've been collecting this for two years! I only recently decided it wasn't funny enough to keep reading the comments, but I am full General Grievous mode with this page and can't bear to see it not grow.
Who the fuck is sending you like, CISO hatemail though? I haven't seen you say anything spicy. Mostly like "Patch your machines, duh"
@ludicity oh i got a different type of abuse. in 2021 i had two assholes from twitter who i guess couldnt bear to see me keep saying "infosec isnt a starter career" run a disniformation campaign against me for 7 months, and it turns out they were friends with a bunch of com kids ('the com' is a loose knit pack of teens and 20somethings that do crime, think scattered spider), and they got those assholes invovled. since then, ive gone to some lengths to block them and their ilk.
It's an interesting phenomenon. As someone who has been writing weekly articles for over 15 years, the type of "feedback" I see appears to be determined by the platform and its echo chamber effects, some are generally what you might call "toxic", where others are supportive or even thoughtful. I get my share of direct email responses, but in general it's considered and constructive. Mind you, 3 million+ downloads a year is hardly "viral", so YMMV 😁
@ludicity I have been blown away by the number of posts on my feed lately claiming that you or @pluralistic are pro LLM and/or just talking trash in general. I don't understand how people whose prior posts I generally agreed with can purposefully misread and/or deliberately misrepresent your writing and positions so brazenly.
I thought I had curated my mastadon follows relatively well but it's gotten quite toxic in the last few weeks.
@samzvr @pluralistic ???
Who on earth is saying I'm pro LLM
I talk to Ed Zitron every day, like what are they reading
@ludicity @pluralistic it doesn't make any sense to me either: https://toot.cafe/@baldur/116940642487019853
@samzvr @ludicity @pluralistic "Dude's literally the CEO" sounds like it should be the title line on a business card.
@ludicity
I took a look at HN (I don't normally visit) and honestly most comments were largely in agreement. Mostly adding nuance to your argument. You may have a more receptive audience than you think.
@jannem I think HN normally agrees with me. I actually like most of the people there, but the reality is that as the business has gotten busier, I think it's better to signal to myself that I have time for more important things, than to signal to myself that I can handle a few mean people.
My co-founders just shipped this page when someone found a dead link though:
@ludicity sadly I just went through the HN comments and they are entirely off the rails, in a way that is not even funny. There is 100-comment thread about the singularity, and most others just latch on the "I've seen 0% of AI projects succeed" statement and run with it by saying it does not match reality because they use Claude code.
@mathieui Ah yeah, a big reason I want to engage less is that I used to check to see if someone had useful corrections, but I'd get like one good critique for every nine failures of reading comprehension.
I am guessing here that they are struggling with the fact that "I have not seen success" is not synonymous with "No one has ever succeeded", or missing that I didn't handle implementation.
@ludicity The most mean-spirited I could find on HN is this one:
"I read the entire post, and I think this company has no expertise at all."
@ludicity
You've inspired a lot of weirdos like me to write about the things they are frustrated about. Giving rise to an army of angry writers who feel indebted yo you. Let that thought protect you.
Also Andrew Fucking Gelman likes your writing. Look at his google scholar and feel better.
When you allow AI to write your alt text.
Apparently the type of anteater is a tamandua, and the two in Toronto Zoo are called Yzma and Pacha.
@Nickiquote In this image, a woman is holding a large, golden-brown cat with black spots on a leash while it's eating. The leopard appears to be enjoying the woman's face. A few other people can be seen in the background, likely observing the interaction between the woman's face and her leopard.
This is from @ZooTweetMirrorBot and the AI is having a hard time with the anteaters. Elsewhere it identifies them as badgers and kangaroos. It also identifies baby otters as wild boars.
@Nickiquote @ZooTweetMirrorBot yeah, my bot. hate AI and it's running locally on a box with no internet access. some zoos have started finally adding ALT text themselves and it's been set up to try and grab that
but I had to weigh the bitching about no ALT Text (which I am an avid bitcher about as well) versus a "sometimes accurate enough, sometimes just face-palmingly horrible" approach and I opted for a docker container on a VM on a NUC being the lesser problem.
If you have complaints about it the best thing to do is to contact the Toronto Zoo's social media team and ask them to add ALT Text as I have done a few times.
Thanks for linking to the source after the initial post
@Nickiquote it can be good as a starting point since some (including me) struggle with writing alt text, but you should always edit it to remove unnecessary details and correct things.
@Nickiquote
I was disappointed that that cup in her left hand wasn't a jelly donut. Mostly because that makes me wonder if I'm AI.
@TheBreadmonkey
@Nickiquote
I'm mostly concerned for the two people on the right with red x's on them. Has AI scheduled them for termination?
@Nickiquote I had a text message read to me through my headphones, and a photo of a cooler on wheels was described as a blue and white toilet on a patio.
We are unveiling our plan to make Europe the world’s first electro-powered continent:
1️⃣ By 2040, electricity should account for 46% of Europe's final energy consumption
2️⃣ Reducing the price gap between electricity and fossil energy
3️⃣ Lowering network charges and taxes
4️⃣ Deploying smart meters faster
Our aim: save €200 billion in fuel imports by 2040 and halve oil consumption.
Power Smarter. Go Electric.
@EUCommission are you taking into account the number of households that will install air conditioning because of the heat waves?
Reducing the price gap between electricity and fossil energy
There is no price gap if you consider all the cost. Stop trying to privatize the yield and socialize the cost. This is not the EU spirit
@EUCommission
Did Talk about with Germany?🤔🤨
We have just 1% smart Meter
We (Reiche😒) slow down the renewables
We don't stop the fossil politics
@EUCommission gap is between illusion and reality, between oil&gas destructive policies and fight against, between people dying and bureaucrats sitting in air-conditioned offices
@EUCommission why do you want to reduce the price gap though. Renewables are already the cheaper way and if everyone stops throwing subsidies at fossil fuels they become so expensive nobody wants to use them anymore. Or am I misunderstanding that goal?
And also *points towards Germany* Do something about these criminals.
@EUCommission
Seems the Iranian-American-Israel ongoing incident was good in speeding something.
But now, if we want to electrify, (which we really should), what would be done in order to produce more energy as the demand would increase.
(Please, let it be geothermal powerplants, PLEASE I BEG YA.)
Second, will the technologies, (smart meters and infrastructure components), be home or under control produced?
It would be shame if our infrastructure was at risk again.
https://www.dw.com/en/why-the-eu-sees-chinese-solar-tech-as-a-major-security-risk/a-77066865
@EUCommission
Good work - so just a short question: how many dead Europeans will that bring? I assume mostly kids and the elderly? Correct??
@EUCommission No. Increase the price gap. Its easy - abolish any subsidies to fossile fuels. Tax it fully. Out of existence.
@EUCommission 2040 is not as early as it seems. The 1.5°C target set by the Paris Agreement (compared to pre-industrial temperatures) will very likely be crossed by then, and on its way to get to 2°C.
@EUCommission If you let an independent Scotland join it will help your statistic get there, just saying 😉 #SaorAlba #UnitedInDiversity 🏴🇪🇺
@EUCommission
Are you serious? More CO2 certificates, a hollow green deal. All the while asking for compliments??
As others pointed out: too late, too little. Our children will have to pay.
How?
By increasing the consumption tax on a fossil energy?
Sounds like Marx and Charles Fourier creating another version of communism.
@EUCommission 2030 and then far more than 48, otherwise we will have food and water shortages on the near horizon.
@EUCommission our household has been 100% electric (and 100% renewable at that (quaranteed wind electrons. I know how it works, so no reply guys, thanks.)) since 2020 when we replaced our second car that was PHEV with a BEV. Where the fuck is our trophy!!? 😅️
- Heating: air source heat pump with radiator backup.
- Water boiler: electric (well, this is a no-brainer in Finland)
- Stove: induction
- Cars: electric. Nissan e-NV200 and VW ID.3
- All power tools and garden machinery: battery or plugin.
@EUCommission Great ambition. But here in the UK electricity remains the most expensive energy, and has no consumer subsidies. where gas still does!! And then they wonder why the public is negative about net zero.
Now look as Aus - free renewable energy for up to 3 hours a day!
@EUCommission Very ambitious. How about 2035? 2030? Don’t move in glacial speed, we can be faster - have a look how China does it. Start moving, not only talking!
That picture is so racist and sexist.
It does not represent the wholeness of European plugs, just the supremacist continental one.
And the male plug is depictured more present and powerful than the female.
Just joking. 🤣
@EUCommission "We won't do nearly enough, but we'll act really smugly like we are".
tbh I don't even believe it, one phonecall from washington and the EU bureaucrats will bend over again and invest another ungodly amount in the fossil fuel industry.
@EUCommission 🤬Nope, it's "Burn, baby, burn".
Another smoke curtain by the EC's spin doctors!! https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-climate-change-fight-carbon-market-emissions-trading-system/
Even that figure of 46% is pure wishful thinking/communication strategy. Fossil industry lobbies win 🤮
@EUCommission meanwhile in the Netherlands both supply and demand for renewable electricity are blocked because of necessary grid upgrades. 😞
@EUCommission so your plan is to buy more Chinese cars? That seems like a plan without thought of consequences.
Good job.
@EUCommission why not by 2030. The tech is there. Invest in battery storage, wind, solar, geothermal. Force industries to switch to existing alternatives. Stop subsidizing fossil fuels and their usage and punish governments who do.
This is timid chickening out.
Are you sure?
Have you ever heard oft Katherina Reiche, the Federal Minister for Economic Affairs and Energy in Germany? And what she is doing?
@EUCommission Electricity is already cheaper than fossil energy. Reducing the gap sounds counter productive. 🤔
@EUCommission 46% in 16 years? 2024 we were at 24%....
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/interactive-publications/energy-2026
some would call this... not very ambigious, especially since the easy parts could be done quickly at the beginning?
According to one source, 34% of the EU electric production comes from fossil fuels. How is more of this a good thing?
The EU feed on Mastodon is worse than useless, it highlights how far the EU is from what it pretends to be (a democratic, pro-environmental, transparent and accountable organization serving the will of the people.)
@EUCommission
You hear people say that electric energy marks just a little percentage of whole energy sector. But to set this quote as a target is the right way to counteract! Well done, but more heat pumps and electric storage to make renewable energy cheap are required for this. Please testify acting and not watch the process develops on its own to be convincing in this action.
meanwhile at Timothy Sweeney's Slop Factory:
@lashman Great, now that swim teeney has stated his opinion, we know the opposite is true
Fuck me.
He’s talking about “remigration” now.
@rahoulb Ruh roh Raggy, I don't even know who we're talking about and this sounds like I should be worried about having brown skin
@ludicity The Ruby on Rails guy who, 20+ years ago changed my life and gave me my career (and actually knew who I was and was nice when we met), is full-on racist now.
Standard “Europe is falling”, people like me are “incompatible” shite.
🤷🏾♂️
@rahoulb Oh darn, I guess that's DHH. Really sorry to hear that, that sounds so awful.
I remember reading a few things he put out over the last year or so and being pretty horrified.
His blog https://world.hey.com/dhh
I particularly like the one where he quotes people that renowned racist Tommmy Robinson said were too extreme
🇲🇽 boostedHelp me, help me, my workplace is doing an AI webinar slop now 
🇲🇽 boosted"It's not that AI is inefficient, we just don't prompt it properly"
Help, help, I can't turn on the microphone to scream 
Chat is deactivated, the microphone is deactivated, rip and ewww
At least they're explaining the difference between classic AI algorithms and generative AI.
Of course the focus is on the not good one
ChatGPT is not open source man didjwldjdjwe
I feel like the whole presentation is AI generated
Not the AI slop image of a robot in a library 😭
"You will not be replaced by AI, you may be replaced by someone who knows how to use AI"
This is so silly
"crit" framework? More like cringe framework
Skdbdkdhsosks
The person just shared the screen showing the sidebar of their copilot interface including a history of previous chats
There's like seven of them starting with "Summarize this email" 
This person is using an AI generated prompt to prompt the AI to analyse an excel file
They didn't even show the excel first and we don't even know what will be analysed
"Just tell the AI to act as an expert so it analyses the excel properly"
What if you first at least open the excel file to know what it is about djfjwkdd
Stop copy pasting the prompts qldjwidbwedkw
If you'll teach "prompt engineering" at least actually prompt
Or do nothing, that's more useful
"I don't understand the terms used but they are terms used by experts so that could be useful to you if you work in that area"
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I love how all the "solutions" offered for the excel file aren't even feasible with how we operate
Oh no they just asked for an AI generated presentation of the AI generated stuff
"Make sure to double check everything"
Didn't even read anything
"Use Shift+Enter to start a new paragraph"
Probably the most useful advice so far. At least on an actual chat app (we use teams unfortunately)
Email generated responses, great, oh great
Q&A Time
GIVE ME SUGGESTIONS
All the questions so far are basically "how do I feed more of our internal work files to it so it does more things for me"
And here I am feeling guilty about sometimes reading a book at work
🇲🇽 boostedIt's over thankfully
Useless waste of time but at least I got paid to listen to that
🇲🇽 boostedOkay so I actually took a screenshot of the Copilot chat history sidebar and it's not just the four or five "summarize this email" bits
There are also two "write an answer for this email..."
And the funniest one
"I will do a webinar soon about AI and..." (It gets cut-off)
Well I guess the guy got paid for doing nothing too
SAY SOMETHING.
@rl_dane no mic or chat available haha
Tell your boss that it's crap.
@rl_dane my boss drank the kool-aid too, but it's whatever
My position doesn't need it and I'm not actually being pushed to use it. The webinar was optional, I subjected myself to it willingly for the sake of posting about it lol
Moving on
@thedoctor @rl_dane it was all for the sake of my followers enjoying my pain 
🇨🇦 boostedDamn. This quote from Linus Torvalds is... well... damning.
In response to a discussion around use of generative AI as it relates to contributions to the Linux code base, Linus (creator and lead contributor to Linux) firmly states that AI contributions are welcome.
But then he goes on and concludes with this:
"The kernel project has been and will continue to be about the technology.
Sure, the social angle of working on open source is important and often a very motivating part of the project, but in the end that's a side benefit, not the _point_ of the project.
This is *NOT* some kind of "social warrior" project, never has been, and never will be.
In the kernel community we do open source because it results in better technology, not because of religious reasons.
And so we make decisions primarily based on technical merit. Not fear of new tools.
Linus"
A lot of us are on Linux specifically because of the social and political positives. Closed source is control. Open source is democracy.
Linus doing the typical tech-bro "i don't think of politics, I only think of tech" harkens back to any number of "science without ethics" atrocities.
Linus is and has always been a tech-bro (or proto tech bro). He has his throne of power and is happy where he is. Other tech-bros want money and influence. They're all the same.
But Linus is wrong.
Tech is politics.
And his stance and guiding influence with Linux is wrong.
Linus just made a political statement and has shifted the politics and societal approach of Linux.
@tinker he is very open about the options though:
„Linux is not one of those anti-AI projects, and if somebody has issues
with that, they can do the open-source thing and fork it.
Or just walk away.“
Which, in the end, is fine. I think LLMs are a Pandora‘s Box moment. We are not happy about it, but the genie is out of the bottle.
@tinker and most important: I am intrigued to see how they will keep the amount and quality of patches and merge requests in check. See the curl project... LLM will lead to massive amount of slop that can DDoS an open source project.
@root42 - They'll use AI to screen it en masse. (Not joking)
@tinker makes sense. Otherwise it will simply not be manageable. Everything is changing massively.
@reflex There is a difference between AI generated slop and using machine learning to classify data. How do you control your spam inflow? Don’t be polemic.
@root42 Using AI to vet AI is not using machine learning to classify data, and no a spam filter is not AI. Stop doing their marketing.
@reflex I am not doing their marketing. How do you get that idea? But in the future we will have to think very hard how to deal with a flood of spam in ALL open source projects. How is this going to happen?
@root42 You ban contributors who repeatedly spam contributions that violate the terms of the project. Just as we always have.
@reflex I think there will be magnitudes more contributors, many of whom will supply only single patches for individual problems, exotic hardware and such. Those will be enabled by LLMs to produce said patches. Blocking will not work. You WILL have to grade all those contributions, and often it will not be CLEAR that it was LLM generated.
@root42 You keep saying that but again these are problems we have literally always had, and we have gone through such waves before. If you make your project LLM friendly you are simply inviting more. The only answer is to make it against policy and enforce the policy.
@reflex and how do you detect LLM contributions? It’s not like you can see that a 5 line patch is created using an LLM.
@root42 How do you detect code submitted that violates the GPL?
Again, none of these are new problems, and it's weird that people who see a role for AI constantly must pretend these are new unsolvable problems so we should just let AI into the space.
@reflex I don’t know. How do you detect that code violates the GPL? Genuinely interested. But detecting LLM authored code must be hard, no?
My point from the get go was: the genie is out of the bottle and the question is: what do we do about it? I don’t see that it is even remotely feasible to reject LLM authored code. I just don’t get how that would work in practice.
@root42 You don't. That's the thing. Policies are a statement of intent. They are not an ironclad method of preventing something. CoC policies do not prevent harassment, they spell out what it is and lay out a process when it happens. The same is true of license enforcement and contribution requirements.
Without such policies the undesired actions occur without any method of checking or fixing them. You don't expect 100% compliance, but you have the tools needed when someone misbehaves.
@reflex ok. But basically we have to say: probably a lot of code we merge is LLM generated. We just don’t know.
@root42 Probably a lot of code merged comes from closed or license incompatible sources. We just don't know.
But when we find out, we have tools to handle the situation without jeopardizing our project.
@reflex yes, closed source is okay. But with LLM code you will never know…
@root42 How do you know if a contribution came from a closed source app? How do you know if it came from a license incompatible app?
@reflex by getting told by the closed source owner. They can see your code, but not the other way around. But with LLM code this will not happen. You just don’t know. Never will.
@root42 You can investigate suspected LLM code a number of ways, but as I said it's a statement of intent and a tool you can wield. Literally nobody claims any policy every completely prevents anything in literally any context, so this line of questioning is pretty silly on your part.
@reflex but how much is a policy worth if it is almost unenforceable?
EDIT also I am enjoying the discussion but please don’t call me silly. That’s uncalled for.
@root42 As I said, it makes intent clear and a significant number of people will respect it. You seem to be arguing that everything should be anything goes. The GPL is largely unenforceable. So is every other software license. CoCs are very difficult to enforce. So are shoplifting laws and drug laws. And nearly every other aspect of a society.
Rules and laws are never preventative, they are declarative.
@reflex Interesting angle, which I would put a bit of a doubt on. But laws and policies have different grades of enforcability, of course. Shoplifting here in Germany is at most 10% enforcable according to statistics. GPL... no idea. But the anything goes argument... What do you mean by that? And maybe to play devil's advocate: What is so bad about LLMs to ban them outright? A powerful LLM with a good developer surely can produce good code in a shorter time? Is there an argument FOR LLMs?
" Microsoft’s Secure Boot has been broken for a decade and no one noticed until now "
@michal No one noticed... but I don't think anyone is surprised about it, either 🙄
@michal my rule is: it it comes from Microsoft, disable it and you’ll be more secure
@ParadeGrotesque @michal @stefano so Restricted Boot only locked out the average users wanting to run BSD or tiny community distros, not the baddies?
🙀
Who would have thought? 😹
told you so
@ParadeGrotesque @stefano @michal To be fair, this is also true without any Microsoft in your infrastructure if you are a viable target.
@ParadeGrotesque @stefano @michal Hackability as a Service is a business with excellent margins thanks to double-dipping and solid demand from APT groups worldwide, which received additional internal support recently by mandatory vibe coding. It is part of Microsoft's "Intelligent Cloud" offerings (up 30% in FY26 Q3!).
I care about X11 because I like Motif. I like the chunky chiseled look and feel. I like the way the API works. I like how fast it is on anything reasonably modern. I like how it doesn’t try to be flashy and shiny.
Motif can’t be simply ported to Wayland because it builds on X Toolkit Intrinsics and Xlib. It’s not just a toolkit that supports X11 output, it’s an X11 toolkit. Arguably the most functional candidate for a native toolkit.
You could do a Wayland native toolkit that had a similar API and look. But it wouldn’t be the same.
What Motif is missing is a good Canvas implementation and a browser view. Other than that there is no UI you can’t do in Motif.
Arguably the web isn’t worth supporting anymore. It’s been corrupted. But there’s nothing stopping you from doing a Motif Gemini or Gopher or Fediverse client.
@mos_8502 just five letters: Motif
@sif I’m sorry?
@mos_8502 I am a Motif license holder. I wrote Motif apps briefly. It is a terrible GUI framework.
@sif I like it. I don’t think it’s terrible at all.
@mos_8502 well we can agree to disagree. in my mind I put it just under Amiga Intuition, which is a much less capable framework.
@sif Aside from GTK+, which used to be kind of good but sucks now, what is your version of the best plain C GUI toolkit?
@mos_8502 FLTK, though I haven't used it in years. (More info: I used it in the early 2000s for prototyping and tooling for cross platform simulation environments for embedded linux systems. really shined in that environment. as a generic user facing system it had its limitations or required some funky work to get some expected look and feel right.)
@sif FLTK is C++.
@mos_8502 ah, but back when C++ was marginally usable!
@mos_8502 GTK+ was okay but also tried to be a custom-object-oriented model. I guess Motif might be the best C interface I have actually used besides Intuition which is a bit of niche platform, though it is possible to use it on Linux, sorta.
@mos_8502 it would be interesting to start over with Clay though. https://www.nicbarker.com/clay
I assume Motif eventually lost its license requirement?
@sif Motif has been open and maintained independently for years now.
@mos_8502 well my experience with it was with its closed source lifetime, which is unfortunate because that sucked a lot, linking was a versioning nightmare sometimes. as it is, yeah I don't see many projects using it now, even one project on github that comes up first talks about it in terms of maintaining old CDE codebases and industrial controls. It doesn't demo well. it certainly isn't the worst thing you could do. Is https://github.com/thentenaar/motif the version you are using?
@mos_8502 How is twm in comparison?
@michal No. What has that to do with GUI toolkits if I can ask?
@michal Some people really seem to have a hate on for it.
@michal I think it’s clean and fast and the API is understandable if you understand C at a good level.
Today's discovery: https://www.negrodigest.com/
@michal Back when "Negro" was a polite term. I've seen people upset when a 1938 book uses that word. Context matters.
America was always a great country. But that doesn't mean we don't have horrific chapters in our history. I think the key is to notice that the USA always *tries* to be better, and if you compare current to historical, we really have gotten better.
https://archive.org/details/sim_black-world_1945-04_3_6/page/14/mode/2up
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.100932/page/n3/mode/2up
The creator pawned furniture to make the first vol ;p
My plan to read Horrorstör in Ikea was finally fulfilled at Ikea Canberra's first Silent Book Club last week.
I sat in a display lounge room reading about a group of customer service staff trying to survive a night shift at Orsk, an Ikea-type furniture store. Interspersed with the story are posters of retail values and catalogue ads of furniture that become more deranged throughout the book.
Open to suggestions about the next book to bring to #Ikea.
@opoponax I guess "The Extraordinary Journey of the Fakir who got Trapped in an Ikea Wardrobe" would be fitting?
@pulkomandy that looks like a charming read. Have you read it or seen the movie?
@opoponax I have read it (the original French version). I would say is is exactly what you'd expect from the title and the author's bio (former policeman but thatws just one of a dozen unusual past jobs, runs two youtube channels of which one is about Akai MPC sound samplers, says he wrote the book on his phone while commuting to work in RER trains)
@michal Sure is! I think it's the first time Ikea has hosted a silent book club anywhere. I found out after joking about going to Ikea to read and wave at random customers. And now there is a club where I can do this once a month.
@michal I'm extremely skeptical of technical solutions to social problems. If kids that age are on Youtube it's because their parent gave them the phone
@_hic_haec_hoc @michal not forbidding, educating. If a parent wants to feed their kid with pizza and whiskey every day there's nothing stopping them, we should recognize that social media usage is like any other drug
Young Europeans spend an average of 4.5 hours online on school days and 6.1 hours on weekends.
Social media offers many opportunities to learn, connect, participate, and create. Yet, it also presents risks. Nearly 60% of young people have experienced emotional or psychosocial harm online.
Yesterday, we received the recommendations from our expert panel on how to better protect and empower young people online.
Find out more: https://link.europa.eu/3FY84y
@EUCommission "Nearly 60% of young people have experienced emotional or psychosocial harm online"
What's the corresponding number for offline?
@EUCommission
No, you ordered a study to try to legitimize ChatControl 1.0, which was blocked in voting but still passed.
This is not about protecting the children,.it's about eroding all citizens' privacy. It's about authoritarianism.
If social media is so harmful, blame content creators, platforms that knowingly profit off of it and parents for not parenting, instead of wanting to spy on everyone.
@EUCommission
Will it be possible build an online community without identity verification in the future?
Do you want it to be?
Good! We need initiatives to counter the toxic algo-shit that is brainrotting our young and turning them into empathy derived tic-toc psychopaths.
@EUCommission But why is addictive stuff okay for teenagers and adults?
We lost part of the Boomer generation to Facebook psychosis.
Many younger people are not better.
The adults are not alright.
@EUCommission From the link:
"a common EU age limit for social media with protections adapted to age and risk"
In other words: mandatory identity verification for everyone.
@EUCommission So that means you will regulate big tech and force them to curb toxic and addictive algorithms, right? You will not just use this as pretext to implement total online surveillance via mandatory age verification, right? RIGHT?
@EUCommission should the adults be victimized by addictive algorithms that only exist because you would rather not act on those algorithms? Staff and add resources to regulators, and enforce already existing laws. Don't require spying on all that use the Internet, regulate online services.
@EUCommission
From the linked article:
"a common EU age limit for social media with protections adapted to age and risk"
And how do you plan on enforcing this?
Because for both Android and iOS, this already exists! Instead educate *parents* on how they keep their children safe instead of hurting everyone by giving up their privacy by exposing their ID to use the internet.
Well if that is the outcome ok. But I'm not willing to be forced to identify myself for everything...
@EUCommission erm, von der Leyen's analogy is stupid by shifting the blame. She basically said that because parents can't/won't educate their children not to do wrong things, big tech should do it instead.
And having mandatory age checks and message scanning IS NOT the way we protect children. How about we invest all these billions in education campaigns instead?
@EUCommission so please go and regulate those addictive social media companies.
Hi @DanielSchwering ! We have the Digital Services Act. With this, we have already taken action against TikTok's addictive design, and just last week against Meta.
More about Meta here: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_1579
More about TikTok here: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_24_926
An overview of all platforms monitored under the DSA: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/list-designated-vlops-and-vloses
Please EU commission mastodon account, write more answers to the replies on your posts, just so we can interact with each other more.
@EUCommission Good ❤️
Please keep up and intensify that work to protect all users and don't force age verification on all users under the guise of protecting children.
@EUCommission
So teach the parents how to protect the kids by promotion media literacy in schools and adult avenues. Make laws against the algorythms and proportionate punishments for companies that keep using them. Remove AI and exess tech from schools.
Stop trying to gain more information of your citicens and bringing forth the new wave of facism. It will end badly for you eventually too. It always ends badly for the authoritarians.
Learn from history. Don't repeat it.
@EUCommission Then regulate the algorithms, not the age of users!
Also if you really really have to, EU state should be the only provider of age verification. Period. Completely anonymised. Leave no incentive for ANY private business to steal the data.
If you don’t use state power to do hopd, someone else will, you’ll be left aside, and people will ask you: ”Why didn’t you do anything??”
@michal
So the parents can eat in peace at a restaurant – "parenting" in the 21st century.
@EUCommission
@michal @EUCommission why would an 60 yo lobbyist try to controll what I want to see without a passport?
@EUCommission Everyone in here knows what age verification is, that it will kill anonymity for everyone and will also likely not protect children in any meaningful way. So why do you insist in posting this trash propaganda? Do you underestimate our intelligence that much? Since there is no democratic dialogue and you clearly already made up your mind to pass this, the very least you can do is show us some respect and stop posting this crap. No one buys this. No one.
@EUCommission
Frankly, after the forced reintroduction of #chatcontrol
I lost any trust on you.
Chatcontrol, age verification and any other solution presented to protect the children are both a violation of human rights an an authoritarian ruling.
Please write someting different from the will of American fascist billionaires, any adult european citizen worth a full protection, not only children.
@EUCommission Children should see cat images only. but stop forcing us to scan IDs to look up the weather.
Adults are addicted too. How long do they spend on their phones? Why not just protect everyone, and regulate the social media companies?
Hi @Cyclist! We have the Digital Services Act. With this, we have already taken action against TikTok's addictive design, and just last week against Meta.
More about TikTok here: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_24_926
More about META here: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_1579
An overview of all platforms monitored under the DSA: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/list-designated-vlops-and-vloses
@EUCommission
And how you do ot? By denying children access to social media. Go figure!
It would be better to change the big platforms behaviour to make children safe, and also to make adults safe as well.
But that would require guts.
Hi @gunstick! A start date for the age children can join social media is needed. At the same time, we have the Digital Services Act so that providers remove harmful features such as addictive algorithms, dark patterns, harmful content, or unwanted contacts. This means that the platforms have a duty of care to their users, especially to their most vulnerable users. We will continue to enforce our rules and change the system where it fails our children. Read more here: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/list-designated-vlops-and-vloses
@EUCommission
There is no start age needed for children to play outside on the road.
Parents need to care for them.
Especially in europe, parents do not need to drive their children all the time in a car to the playground.
How is that?
The roads are safe. For everyone. No police needed dragging lonely kids off the streets.
Also I, as an adult, can cross the street without fear of getting run over by a meta advertisement truck. Jaywalking is not illegal.
I guess you get my car analogy.
@EUCommission As per usual, Cory Doctorow has actually thought about this, taking reality into account.
https://pluralistic.net/2026/06/23/destroy-the-village/#to-save-it
@EUCommission Make addictive algorithms illegal? Drug classify them? Regulate them? Have an approval board for algorithm driven big tech products?
@EUCommission you will kill adult congregation like forums with this. Soon everything locked in the metaverse. Quit the fediverse already. go away with your censorshit ideations.
@EUCommission
> Nearly 60% of young people have experienced emotional or psychosocial harm online.
What is the number for adults?
@EUCommission Therefore, we will implement ChatControl and mandatory ID registration. We care about your security, dear puppets... Next step VPNs?
" Grand Theft Auto VI, The Last Blockbuster "
@michal I totally agree with this analysis. I believe that GTA VI risks to be killed by what players are expecting out of it. GTA VI might be a good game, even a great one but I believe it's not the "once in a generation game" many may expect and this may disappoint and even burn out many players already tired of increasing prices, customer unfriendly practices and games that were the same stuff repackaged ad nauseam for decades.
Maybe this is going to cause a crash like in 1983 but I believe that it's more realistic to expect a long and painful deflation like Marvel is enduring: they caught the attention of mainstream audience for many years, sold Endgame as a "once in a generation event" but after that brand fatigue set in and now they're losing relevance release after release.
I've been working on cowbuttons -- something which approximates FvwmButtons.
The glaring limitation is that because you cannot reparent windows on wayland you can't get a good facsimile of FvwmButtons.
But what you can get is what you see in the attached image.
You can define panels which open/close other cowbuttons or external applications. You can define launcher buttons for applications.
The PR will be merged soon:
https://codeberg.org/thomasadam/cow/pulls/135
Testing, comments, etc., welcome!
@michal Heh. In some ways I hope not. I didn’t want to write cow at all. But I can’t see a time where it just won’t be practical to remain on X11 and I want to be ready for that.
@michal No. The, “‘there isn’t anything which come close to resembling/working like fvwm and mwm, so I’ll build it.”