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@michal@sapka.pl
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" The Definitive History of Sci-Fi (A 4-Hour Bookshelf Masterclass) "
The people that claim to be surprised by the #EU #PPWR on packaging and recycling and paint it as a surprising shock that will kill small businesses do, well, surprise me. The process started in 2015, there was a public consultation period in 2020-21, the rules entered into force in February 2025. What is "new" is that after that introduction period we have now reached the general application phase. So if you do business in the EU but decided to not really care — that's on you?
@michal Could even be classic reverse lobbyism by the big players. I’ve seen it many times before. Out of nowhere groups and companies show up loudly criticising some rule or regulation to make it an „us poor small businesses versus the evil EU“ story. But it’s orchestrated by the big players to make sure they remain untouched.
@jwildeboer it does not surprise me that people are surprised. There are so many of these things running in parallel and it is hard to keep up when you are running a small business and have to worry about a million things.
I mean I grew up with "Stuttgart 21" planning. Back in high school in the mid 90s we even drew sketches of how it could look like.
But I never believed it would actually happen. So did many citizens in Stuttgart.
@jwildeboer they certainly messed up. That, however, doesn't change the fact that the requirement for a representative in every EU country goes against the very idea of a single market.
While it was certainly negligent to realise the problem only now, such a core principle should be upheld by the EU without the need of continuous supervision. On the other hand, this should apply to Schengen as well 😬
@weddige I think this legislation wouldn't survive even a cursory review at the EUCJ and would be deemed excessive straight away. So I wonder why no SME (Small to Medium sized Enterprise) association did exactly that: take it to court.
If you look at the list of people who donated a million each, you'll find DHH's business partner (Jason Fried), the CEO of Shopify, where DHH is on the board (Tobi), and other people close to him.
It's safe to assume most of them — maybe except Dell and Cloudflare — would not have donated to Linux-related projects that DHH is not involved in.
Code review / finding bugs is a particularly good use case, since false positives are benign.
I figure they're also really good at locating the source of a bug when it's reported, if that's what you mean with solving their problems.
@michal This is ambiguous. Do you like the wet bread or not?! :-D
i wonder if apple are so flat out of ideas they'll release this completely broken shit anyway
https://www.macrumors.com/guide/iphone-ultra/
(note: preview card date is 2023, but the current version is dated 21 Aug 2026 https://archive.is/Aetuy )
Oh my goodness, Apple is about to invent folding phones, six years later!! AMAZING!!!
Every time I see a MacBook with a notch, I'm very tempted to stand in front of the person using it, gently close the macbook, lean forward, stare into their flipping soul, and just say, "Get help."
@rl_dane @davidgerard There have been a drip of reports for the past five years that Apple was working on one, but refused to release it until (a) they could do one without a tendency to crease along the fold, and (b) a manageable defect rate (to avoid blowing up the warranty budget).
I'd quite like an iPad Mini that folds down into an iPhone, thanks, but not at a higher price than an iPad Mini *and* an iPhone Pro Max.
@davidgerard surely people will enjoy the ear cameras that read to them and the category of phone that’s most known for carriers begging people to downgrade to them because they’re extraordinarily expensive and break almost instantly
what do you mean you don’t want surveillance cameras in your ears and a scam phone
@davidgerard I mean if they're considering AirPeeps Bro Max, one could say this even makes a smidgeon of more sense. People do fall for foldables, I only didn't get one cos I can't afford, and there was a considerable amount of time about a year, year and a half ago where I was too stupidly enamoured by them...
@librarysquirrel they're a fantastic idea! and the reality has sucked ass for their entire existence, and the article mentions way down as a casual aside that even Apple can't make one that doesn't suck ass
@davidgerard Was really confused why the preview link seemed to be 3 years old. Looks like there are comnents on the post - ostensibly published last week - going back to February 2023. Presumably Apple have been grappling with this very question for at least that long?
@speculationfictive yeah i assume they just keep the folding rumours in one place, i have attached the precise archive copy
@davidgerard that whole article is just slop, right, or is it, similar to singers who now sing like Autotune, people writing like slop?
My book is out!
This one was a passion project. It's about how we've used computers for writing, including nroff, LaTeX, HTML, and DITA. There's even a chapter in there about WordStar on DOS. 🤓
I added a ton of references and examples, so you can see how it works. I think the chapters on nroff and troff are my favorite, because they show a really interesting part of tech writing history.
Links in comments 👇
Buy my book! If you like #retrocomputing, you'll love the tech history in here.
Springer/Apress:
https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/979-8-8688-2931-4
Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Markup-Markdown-Evolution-Typesetting-Frameworks/dp/B0GZYBF3F1
@freedosproject Also in Kobo store:
https://www.kobo.com/fi/en/ebook/from-markup-to-markdown
@Turre
Thanks for sharing the link! ❤️
Kobo also link to my other book, ‘Technical Writing for Developers.’
https://www.kobo.com/fi/en/ebook/technical-writing-for-developers
That's a quick-start guide to using markdown and HTML to document technical projects, aimed at developers.
@freedosproject
Very cool. And yeah, great title!
Back in the day I was an nroff/troff expert, I even taught classes on them.
@dougmerritt
Thanks!
I love nroff and troff, my first markup system was actually nroff. I wrote about it in the book. Short version: I wrote my undergrad papers in nroff because I could print to the computer lab dot matrix printer for free. 😎
I still use troff, and wrote a (personal) book project last year in groff -ms 👍
@freedosproject Great title! 👏
@freedosproject Thats why its been quiet on YouTube 🥹
Congratulations 🎉
@joany
That's exactly why. I was actually writing two books, one after the other (the other one is ‘Technical Writing for Developers’ about markdown and HTML—that came out in December)
Writing two books, plus my day job, plus #FreeDOS and my other #opensource work, left no time to do videos.
I'm planning to start making more videos again, very soon! 😃
@freedosproject But, but... I was going to write this book! And now you tell me you've already written it? Well I guess I better read it then.
@freedosproject
RUNOFF?
@brouhaha
That's an interesting history that I wrote about in the book! Quick version:
A grad student named Jerry Saltzer created RUNOFF to format his ScD thesis proposal (actually a pair of programs, RUNOFF and TYPSET)
Others heard of RUNOFF and made their own versions of it, including roff at Bell Labs (using abbreviated commands).
See the book for more, but Bell Labs updated roff to become new roff (nroff) then troff (typesetter) and ditroff
@freedosproject
Cool! Gonna have to get your book!
I assume you mention Scribe as well. DEC RUNOFF and Scribe were the first text formatters I used, back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth. I was aware that DEC RUNOFF was inspired by earlier programs of that name, but I've never known any details.
@brouhaha
I didn't write about Scribe, but there's tons about RUNOFF and nroff and everything else.
For the book, I basically followed the evolution of RUNOFF › roff › nroff › troff (with plenty of detail and code samples along the way) 😃
@freedosproject @brouhaha I seem to recall something along the lines of ...
... you could print all 132 characters in the line as bold (which involved overprinting each character multiple times) underlines (or something) and then somehow manage to overprint the line itself several times and cause the operators to worry that you were going to perforate the paper and cause it to tear and the chain printer to jam, holding up everybody else's print jobs.
@TimWardCam
Exactly! And you'd do that in TYPSET (to add backspaces for underline or overprint) and RUNOFF would format that for the output.
If you set # as the backspace char in TYPSET, you'd write
Hello#####Hello
…to make it bold, and
Hello#####_____
…to underline it. 😃
@freedosproject @brouhaha
Do I remember correctly that Salzer’s RUNOFF was written for CTSS on the IBM 7094?
@freedosproject chapter on FrameMaker?
@LapTop006
Not on Framemaker. You can see the full TOC here:
https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/979-8-8688-2931-4#toc
@freedosproject
Super neat! All I need now is a Diablo Printer with at least 3 different print wheels to print out hard copies of my documentation 😄 Are any of the "mainframe" markups in there like SCRIBE ?
@ChuckMcManis @freedosproject I was about to ask, does the book cover TJ6, PUB, and SCRIBE? Originating at MIT, Stanford, and CMU, respectively, but ported between the sites.
@larsbrinkhoff
Ohh, I had completely blocked out my memories of PUB 😆 very traumatic.
We had a Dicomed type setter/printer and a Professor (who had graduated Stanford) who wanted to use it to typeset his book. But after about a month and a half trying to get a driver to work with the film typesetter he switched to SCRIBE which already had a working driver, so I was off the hook.
@ChuckMcManis @freedosproject PUB seems to have enjoyed a period of popularity at SAIL and MIT, but was supplanted by SCRIBE and TeX.
MIT also had an in-house version of roff called R, written in C.
Lisp machine documentation was written in Bolio which was written in Maclisp. The name was a play on the ice cream store Emack & Bolio's, obviously referring to a certain text editor.
@ChuckMcManis @freedosproject Countless MIT AI memos were typeset using TJ6, and printed on the XGP. The whole process can be run on emulators: https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/ai-memo-reprints
@larsbrinkhoff
This was an interesting time to be sure. "In-band" document formatting flourished and then Butler wrote BRAVO at PARC and people were like "Wow, seeing it *as* your typing it?" and we got the command adjacent formatters like Interleaf and FrameMaker. And of course Microsoft copied Bravo in (Word). Wang's "Multimate" was more like troff with windows.
@larsbrinkhoff
I've found so many RUNOFF and roff derivatives as part of my research. Saltzer's RUNOFF really was an influence to many.
It helps that the system is so easy to implement. I wrote about that extensively in the book, including showing how to write your own simple version of one, to show how it works. 👍
@larsbrinkhoff
I tried to find a through-line for many of the topics, such as RUNOFF — roff — nroff — troff … and later, connecting that to WordStar dot commands.
You can find the table of contents here:
https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/979-8-8688-2931-4
Pub and Scribe would be great to add in a follow-up book! 👍
The good part of the blood test is the breakfast following it
@stefano I also have had a cappuccino, but mine wasn't as Instagrammable... I mean, as tootable 🤔 as yours
@stefano One of the places where you find awesome people.. My last time i almost fainted, so many helping and calming ppl is nice to see
@joany That's why I always ask to lay down when having the test. One time I almost fainted, so better safe than sorry
@michal What brand/model of pen do you use?
@michal I switched to fountain pens when I realized I was writing quick notes on a computer and printing it out. I couldn't do arithmetic in my head because there was always a calculator. I felt like I was distant from the real world.
So I figured fountain pens would always stain my fingers and occasionally leak into my shirt pocket. And that this would keep me connected to the real, messy world.
I bought a few, but ended up with a Sheaffer that has the inlaid nib. Looks cool.
1. I may, somehow, become a billionaire so let's not make it harder for future me. No taxes for billionares. I don't know how, but there is a chance.
2. You can not define an exact, perfect line in law between what should be accepted and what should not,. and therefore all regulations are evil. I don't know how, so there is no chance.
@michal sorry, i'm still trying to understand gunz for all = good. also, waiting for the populace with guns to rise up against their shitty government.
@michal mystery for me as well. An additional thing about the first point you made: many Americans really like that old book about certain carpenter turned preacher, and it’s pretty harsh on those rich people. And yet, they square that circle every time.
Number 2 is not quite true. It depends a lot on who is asked and how. There's a lot of spin, propaganda, and misinformation to wade through.
Number 1 is a consequence of "the American Dream" that anyone can become great, and "everyone" dreams of being that one in a million that makes it. Not "everyone" does, but enough hold out hope against all evidence
@michal I like to think of it as a control system. You've got feedback loops which cause the inputs to be modified to keep the system in a stable state.
Laws and regulations are one of those control systems. I'm sure what's happened lately has multiple causes, some subtle.
But IMO, the problem is that 1) the gov started encouraging monopolies, and 2) regulated entities had more money than the regulators. Put the two together, and your control loop goes exponential and the system explodes.
@michal I'm not sure what's covered by Reaganism. There was "Reagonomics", which held that if the corporations are making money, that will "trickle down" as they invest that money.
IMO that only worked when we had a tax code that gave lower tax rates for specific investments. In my time, those investments were arranged by Congress to be things which benefited society as a whole. That, too, is gone now. Partly, I think, because schemes using multiple countries' tax codes to pay nothing in taxes.
@michal These tendencies are quite old. Even Adam Smith wrote about this, and warned about keeping corporations (or whatever the equivalent was back then) tightly controlled.
In my time, we always knew Congressmen were paid agents. But they had to at least appear to be clean, and any hint of scandal tended to ruin their careers. "Accountability" is the word. That's gone.
(Story Continues...)
@michal Some years ago, 3 Congressmen were found by the FBI to be asking for bribes in exchange for Gov't contracts, via price lists on their official letterhead. The FBI was getting ready to charge them, Congress stopped it; "You don't have jurisdiction over Congress." They held secret hearings with "Congressmen A, B, and C".
A was named and retired. B and C were never named. I know one of them is still in Congress.
So _some_ accountability, but not much. And it's just gotten worse.
Gonna take a #FediBreak, y'all.
See you in about a week.
Be kind to one another, and take care of your #MentalHealth!
@rl_dane Have a good one. We'll be here when you come back. :)
Ok, I'm back.
Did you fix everything? Like, the actual whole world?
I was counting on you. XD
@rl_dane Heh? Was I supposed to be doing something? Hmmm... maybe saving the world slipped my mind. 🤣
Glad you're back :)
@rl_dane@polymaths.social Enjoy your digital detox time and...we'll be here when you'll be back.
Take care of yourself!
@rl_dane look after yourself!
Give the cats a snozzle from me
@rl_dane Come back none the wiser, but refreshed and revitalized 🫂
I think I've come back realizing I need to hide more users' boosts. XD
Some folks are just depressing. I get it, the world is on fire. What can I do?!?
DUUUUDE, I would've come back and replied to every single thing!!!!!!!
Bro, give it time. The show will get under your skin in the best possible way, I promise.
You gotta commit to watching Season 1. You won't be able to stop.
When you get to the end of the show and your vision is blurred, and there's an empty box of facial tissues nex to you, remember that I said this. 😂
Kupiłem drabinę, mam nadzieję, że to pierwszy szczebel do sukcesu
@stfn Powineiniem kiedyć napisać o swojej. Jest z nami od 10 lat. Na szczęście w pobliżu jest człowiek, który świetnie spawa wszelkie metale.
@Szescstopni mam nadzieję że moja też tyle pożyje
Silly #Poll: where are you along the #neckbeard pipeline?
(Note: the neckbeard is metaphorical. No actual facial hair required)
Also, please remember #DanesLaw: no matter how carefully someone attempts to construct a poll, the very first comment will usually expose a glaring oversight. That's just how it goes.
| Windows is fine: | 42 |
| MacOS, 'cuz life's too short for all that mess.: | 135 |
| Linux, because it's faster, and my games run great: | 183 |
| I'm a Linux command line jockey!!: | 349 |
| FreeBSD all the way! LONG LIVE UNIX: | 90 |
| OpenBSD! Security go BRRR!: | 55 |
| Of *course* it runs NetBSD!: | 25 |
| Haiku!! It's so beautiful!!: | 25 |
| Ha, I'm still running Workbench/Aros!!: | 4 |
| I wrote my own OS. I'm on a mission from G-d.: | 20 |
Closed
#POLL Results:
44 people are in deep denial about their existential dread, and should consult a counselor and read #Kierkegaard immediately 😁
139 people like teh pretty tings, and can't be bothered
188 people have started down the path towards enlightment
354 people are cool_kids
92 people are very_cool_kids
55 people laugh at your inadequate security model
27 people can run a server on a bit of bailing wire and a microcontroller from 1987 — fear them.
26 people are keeping Gassée's dream alive, and are plenny cool in my book
4 people are totally cool, and totally in a class by themselves
and 21 people kinda scare me, but I'd like to know more. 🤣
#humor #humour #houmor #houmour
#Windows #MacOS #Linux #CommandLine #BSD #RunBSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD #Haiku #HaikuOS #BeOS #Amiga #Workbench #AROS #AmigaOS #Plan9 #9Front #TempleOS
P.S., wherever you find yourself, you're awesome. This is all for fun.
YouTube is the source of so much of Google's soft and hard power. Boycotting it is probably one of the most straightforwardly good choices to make for your use of the internet.
And yes, I recognize the pain involved, as someone with hours and hours of video there.
@mttaggart
So many creators have already switched to subscription based models for a lot of their income. I hope that itself helps encourage others to post videos in better places.
@mttaggart I still pay for a premium YouTube subscription because I hate ads that much and I don’t insta/reels/tok at all so YouTube is about my only source for user-created video. So, serious question, which do you think provides Google less money, a Premium subscription or letting their ads run inline with the videos? I watch 6-10 videos a day of the < 15 minute variety.
@Spartan_1986 I think both deliver different kinds of value for them. You're monetized either way, but plainly the direct revenue is higher with Premium.
@mttaggart That’s what I figured too. As “my” YouTubers get Patreon accounts, etc., I am moving my contributions to that. Someday I WILL BE GOOGLE FREE.
I genuinely wish there were good alternatives... I know there's a federated one but watching videos on it felt like Early YouTube where there was constant buffering and a terrible UI
Maybe Vimeo if they're still around?
@luxliquida Different strokes but I'm honestly okay simply...
Not watching as much video.
I recognize this isn't a perfect solution but I also think effective boycotts necessarily involve discomfort.
@mttaggart Not as much, sure... But I still like watching stuff like Technology Connections or Practical Engineering once in a while. It should never have become the dopamine hellscape of Shorts and algorithms, but I do like that video is a medium people can create in 🤷♀️
@luxliquida I agree that video is a medium people should create in! But then, how do we move from YouTube being an effective monopoly?
More than one front of change is necessary, but boycotts are part of the solution. Another would be finding or building better alternatives.
But again, discomfort is usually a necessary part of positive change.
@mttaggart network effect even keeping people on instagram to this day. The numbers can’t be good still.
In regards to YouTube, the numbers are about to get much worse. https://mastodon.laurenweinstein.org/@lauren/117116947189808091
So GitHub is collapsing under the amount of slop it receives? The service that tries to push Copilot at every chance it gets. Run by the company whose code editor is all-in on slop-slinging now.
As you sow slop, so you shall reap slop.
@michal @citizen428 And Azure is reportedly the mechanical turk of cloud services because it’s a total bodge with humans handling edge cases instead of a well-designed automation architecture. So I’m not surprised something the size of GitHub is too much for it, even before the slop.
It's 2026. I do not have a home phone number. I do not have a work phone number. I am housed and employed.
I can adjust to it—I much prefer it! But it still feels strange.
@jameshowell
In Finland there are no landlines anymore [1]. Completely banished technology. So no one has home phone anymore (unless they get a simcard to use in their home). As for offices, my university provided a specific brand of dumb phone as office phone, but they collected most of them back after a couple of years. This was few years before COVID.
I have to admit, not having home and office phone is still strange for me too.
@Mehrad At my university they took our phones away too. Officially replaced by ... I am not kidding now ... Microsoft Teams
@jameshowell
Yeap, that's the strategy of my university too 🤦 and on top of that Copilot is always there in teams.
I personally have refused to use Teams, especially since they deipped aupport for Linux. I generally ask people to email, meet in person, call with my personal phone, Signal, or if necessary Zoom.
This is very annoying.
@evgandr
I believe some institutes have some form of fixed-connection telephone. Places such as Police, tax office, banks, but also suspect that they are using some VOIP-based system based on Asterisk or Elastix (i used to admin two Elastix servers and I don't know it is still maintained or not).
The official news (link in my previous post) was that landline is now fully depreciated.
RE: https://mastodon.social/@hbons/117099208164126991
Disgusting. Pausing my volunteer tablet driver contributions and any future Linux-related work until The Linux Foundation grows a bit of ethics. If they don’t change, I’ll look elsewhere.
➡️ Edit: Thanks to all your comments and feedback, I now see I'm reacting against The Linux Foundation’s misbehavior, not the open-source Linux community and ecosystem itself. They’re separate entities; I needed that reminder. My frustration is with that corp, not the code. I'll reconsider my pause.
NullDott boostedThe Linux Foundation had $300 million in revenue in 2025.
can't hire a designer.
absolutely pathetic.
@davidrevoy Good for you. I've had concerns for awhile about how they approach AI and not respecting our privacy. Website has quite a few trackers.
@csolisr That's a question for later. I just know that when I left Windows Vista and adopted Linux, no professional artist was using it. Whatever I decide next, I'm not afraid to pioneer a little bit.
@davidrevoy @csolisr Golly ho golly, I love you 20% more already ! Kinda felt like most "libre advocates" were a let down when it came to AI.
@csolisr there's a couple semi-reasonable BSD desktop choices like GhostBSD
@davidrevoy I'm learning how to use NetBSD on an extra laptop I have. It's nice, but not as modern as I like. I really hope I don't have to switch, but I will if I have to.
@davidrevoy shit sucks all over, man. maybe you actually have enough relevance to be able to shift the scales though.
@davidrevoy I get you, and the Linux Foundation has been a bunch of horrible assholes for a very long time. They're basically a who's who of the most awful corporations on the planet at this point - Microsoft, Google, Meta and Amazon are platinum members. Fucking Anthropic is a gold member.
But they don't own Linux.
@datarama Right. That's is also a good point. Thank you for reminding me this.
@davidrevoy @datarama seriously, ignore the linux foundation, it's everything bad about corporate foss. Big corps lording over and coopting community work, when they're not too busy self dealing.
Anyone thinking BSD is some green pasture of freedom, good effing luck. The hardware support alone would turn my daily driver into a paperweight. I love that BSD exists, but it need a community that's a bit more than server racks and zfs pools. Linux is only just growing out of that mindset.
@AlexanderMars @datarama Yes, I think the advice of ignoring the Linux Foundation is one I'll keep in mind. Thank you!
@davidrevoy @datarama sorta related, I think more devs need to release more code as CC-NC, with a notice that commercial licences are available.
@moses_izumi @davidrevoy @prahou This is great.
@jackemled @moses_izumi @davidrevoy cheers
@moses_izumi @davidrevoy @jackemled bhyve is a freebsd thing, but yes, it has gpu passthru
@moses_izumi @davidrevoy @jackemled openbsd has its own thing https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq16.html
i don't think it knows 'fast graphics', i never ran anything graphical through it
@davidrevoy The problem is that there's no real "elsewhere", linux being the only remotely mature alternative to proprietary systems and a lesser evil compared to them.
@Stem Maybe my main problem is just with the "Linux Foundation" ethic itself, and I need to start thinking about it totally appart from the "Linux GPL community code repository". But it's hard.
@davidrevoy Uhg, gross...
I think what's most disappointing to me about *all* of this stuff is having spent so many years believing that FOSS was at least partially grounded in an ideology and a philosophy, and not just about being cheap and, well... sloppy.
It's difficult not to burn out, to be honest.
I have to remind myself that a lot of people really do care, and want to do what is right.
@davidrevoy The Linux Foundation has Linux in the name but it's barely associated with it, their actions cannot be seen as representative of the Linux project.
@Varpie Maybe that's what I need to accept and totally dissociate what does the Linux Foundation VS the Linux GPL kernel (community) code
@davidrevoy
It's important to know that they do not own Linux in any sense. They are licensed to deal with trademark issues, essentially because Linus is intensely uninterested, so *someone* has to do that.
They do not own nor control the Linux kernel source code, nor that of the many Linux distributions.
They *do* host and legally coordinate the Linux kernel effort, but if they disappeared, the kernel people would simply find another way.
> possible to fork
There's not even anything to fork that I'm aware of.
I've been using Linux since version 0.9, but I haven't been paying attention enough to know what on Earth they do with $300 million. I hope it's largely worthwhile, but I dunno.
@davidrevoy It's not just the kernel, it also ASWF (OpenColorIO, OpenImageIO, OpenEXR, OpenFX etc). Even if you "escape" Linux you won't get far. Your tools still depends on libraries maintained by ASWF/Linux Foundation.
@davidrevoy Just so everyone knows, the same applies to #wikipedia and the #wikimedia foundation:
Yes, they are also union busting.
@davidrevoy *squints really hard at the floppy disks*
Have we really gotten so old that people don't know what floppy disks look like anymore? Or they just went "good enough" and slapped it down.
Could have at least spent a few bucks on Fiverr to hire someone to fix the AI's mistakes. 
@davidrevoy @ToonLink that's what tops the cake, one may assume the Linux Foundation kinda wants to target the tech world and tech-inclined people, and they can't even get floppies right!?
@davidrevoy understandable sentiment, although this does feel a little bit as we would say like "throwing the baby out with the bath water".
But yes there have been some decisions lately that are - lets say disputed.
@mohs Understood. I put two nights before writing this, so I think I'm weighting correctly my words about my feelings. I understand that they don't own the Linux code, that it is possible to fork, but they really disgust me as a flagship foundation right now.
My motivation is just finding fun when I look at other OS. Maybe I just need a time to digest? Holidays ? 😅 Thank you for your feedback!
@davidrevoy I certainly would not want to invade in your decision about how to spend your time. It might also be a solution to decide more precisely who you want to support upstream with improvements.
Recently I did read a prominent statement, that ethics should not be considered in technical decisions. But if that would be the default we would use technology without any ethical concern. In that case it is better not to use the technology at all.
@mohs No problem, and thank you for the feedback. as you saw, I just edited my post. I had a misunderstanding about how big was the role of the Linux Foundation, and this post helped me to find a bit more clarity and discernment between The Linux Foundation’s misbehavior, and on another side remember the open-source Linux community and ecosystem itself.
I'll learn to just ignore the Linux Foundation, and see them as what they are: the toxic bank that manage external company funding.
Remix of "This is fine" (https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/viewer/misc__2025-07-01_This-is-fine_by-David-Revoy.html) by David Revoy − CC-BY 4.0
@davidrevoy @ozzelot the linux foundation receiving a fuckton of money from multiple AI corporations (including Palantir) and paying Torvalds a $1.5 million/year paycheck is almost certainly the reason why Torvalds instituted an AI policy in the kernel that requires maintainers to use LLMs for review and encourages slop in the kernel. he evoked a right-wing conspiracy theory while doing it.
a lot of people have told you the Linux Foundation isn’t Linux, that they don’t matter, that you should keep contributing. that doesn’t make any sense if you think about it, does it. this is capitalism, and the person at the head of a project receiving large amounts of money certainly affects everyone who’s part of that project.
the Linux Foundation posting slop is a symptom of a sickness, but keep your eye on what matters. the kernel is rapidly becoming slop and it’s run by someone who very loudly dislikes you and me and everyone else who doesn’t like LLMs. you can do better with your time.
@zzt @davidrevoy @ozzelot Please, I know Linus and most of the Linux kernel senior developers, and I've been covering Linux since Linus was a grad student. There is no policy requiring maintainers to use LLMs; there is no slop in the kernel, and Palantir is not an LF member.
@sjvn @zzt @davidrevoy @ozzelot@mstdn.social
> there is no slop in the kernel,
this requires an extremely particular definition of "slop", favoured by AI promoters, and not the more common one that all AI output is slop.
There is slop in the kernel, and Torvalds posted welcoming it wholeheartedly.
@davidrevoy however, this is another level, wondering what would the choice be other than linux for OSS
@davidrevoy The Linux Foundation is not a monolithic thing. It consists of many corporations, which, in turn, consist of many more humans.
And it does many things besides Linux, some of which are real head scratches (at least for me).
This is quite possibly, a random Joe or a random boss doing a thing without much thought. Or with thought of investors, neglecting which turn out bad for Ford, IIRC.
And over... this, the whole foundation seem rotten; lead by worst example, all in the world is bad (it isn't bad, if we include a bit more than the worst).
That is not to say that Linux Foundation is good; it is corporate alliance, to do its things, some of which related to Linux.
Now, with this more detailed picture, ask yourself... is it worth to assign the mega-blame... to a project worth billions (Linux kernel), given for free to all?
And, what this does actually accomplish? Do you think that generative AI actually uses tablets on Linux? Or maybe actual artists are using tablets? And Linux gives more freedom from corporate control, to 'em?
Your time is yours. And your decisions, are too. And you do lots of amazing, evocative, libre arts (& more). Just... here's a bit of food for thought, okay?
@davidrevoy I mean, if your concern is the use of generative AI in Linux, then from what I've been reading, The Linux Foundation is the least of your problems; a much bigger problem is Linus Torvalds.
But, as others have pointed out, it's not clear there's anywhere better to go instead of Linux. 🤷
Ref: https://www.startpage.com/do/search?q=linus+generative+ai+linux
@davidrevoy First of all, you need to contact The Linux Foundation, otherwise they will not realise you are upset at them.
Second, Linux and TLF are two different things and likely only the former cares about your tablet driver contributions unless the manufacturer of those tablets is a TLF member.
Third, I suspect this is a result of one employee's decision because likely TLF does not have any internal AI use guidelines. That brings us back to the first point. Complain to them.
@davidrevoy yeah this is pure lazyness on their end. Any of us would be more than happy todo any graphics for them.
My stance on AI is fine for using it as a tool, but not a crutch. Using purely GenAI for published artwork is a Crutch.
So yeah, I understand and agree where you are coming from.
Evening reflection: "open" Chinese AI models are advancing very rapidly and, as time goes by, they deliver better performance on increasingly limited hardware.
Could the scarcity of RAM and components driven by "traditional" big AI companies be somehow tied to a desire to restrict our access to local computing resources, "forcing" us to pay them for it?
@stefano I think the main reason behind this scarcity is abundance of capital, compute and data. It sounds contradictory but it’s basically the viewpoint of these traditional tech companies.
IMHO their motive was not about forcing usage, but more about how easy it is to corner the market (pick up the phone, buy all the available compute, sleep, repeat).
@stefano to me, the root problem is lack of competition.
It's not like there's hundreds of manufacturers in different countries. There's just a few of them, concentrated in 3 countries from the same continent.
And they choose the better buyer which is currently not the small consumer.
@release_candidate And I believe it was an extremely short-sighted decision. They abandoned consumer market to follow big money, basically as a gift to a rising Chinese consumer-grade industry that is ready to flood the markets with cheaper (maybe not so high-quality for now) RAM and SSDs.
I think that's what will happen. It already happened before, for example, with smartphones that went dirt cheap pretty fast when we got big Chinese players on the market. Yeah, not all of them were the best of quality, but they were decent enough to kill Samsung and Apple market share.
@stefano One practical rule: score local Chinese models on a fixed 16-24GB box with the same tool-use harness, not on the marketing context window. Labs shipping for consumer GPUs optimize a different constraint than the datacenter frontier, so open and small keeps getting better even when HBM stays scarce.
The scarcity plot is hard to prove. The engineering fact is enough: keep a local-model lane on real hardware budgets, not only API evals.
@stefano they USians also build their systems so they cost more to use / incentivize more use.
super smart of the chinese companies to just build the same thing but a lot cheaper and self hostable and thus making AI into a fungible commodity instead of a "Winner takes it all" market.
It's a genius move using the AI bubble as an economic weakness
On the other hand, I'm keeping my son away from modern tech. It's Putt Putt and Pijama Sam all around. Fuck what we now call "The Internet".
@michal When I first started my career, I had this idea that I should do the best job I could. And if I saw something which could be better, I'd want to do that.
It probably took a decade or more for my "horizon" of responsibility to move from "everything" to "just my area" to "just my work" to "just what's in front of me right now."
I call it the "GAS gauge." Give-A-Shit, or just "fuel level" for folks who are easily offended.
I'm happier now.
@michal I'll be impressed when I'll see a non-electron client.
Apple founder Steve Wozniak jumped into the Slashdot comments on his 75th birthday last year.
The reason that some successful people aren't billionaires is because they use their wealth to make the world a better place. "Success" isn't measured by the number in a checkbook.
I was privileged to see The Woz in the flesh at a talk he have in a city 700km away.
I travelled there for the express purpose of seeing him talk.
I did this not because he was wealthy, but because he was so important to the history of computers.
He was just a chill old geek.
What was the first emacs?
Ok then, you lot are more knowledgeable than I thought!
Co wam wziąć mobilki?
@stfn Co to jest kapsalon? xD
@stfn Turecki kotlet na deser też mnie zastanawia 🤔